Jittery Playback and Slow Running

edited May 2015 in Express Support

Hi.

I have a problem in that I bought a laptop specifically to use for video editing with HitFilm Express, but I didn’t really acknowledge the fact that the graphics card was the bare minimum spec to be able to handle HitFilm. I’m now some way into the project and the software is generally running slowly, not only when trying to playback sections which I’m editing Intermittently jittery) but also when trying to move around the project workflow. Is there any way to be able to play back the edited footage smoothly without having to resort to either upgrading the graphics card or buying a new machine altogether? The spec and context of my situation is as follows: I am running an Asus N55S with an Intel Core i7 2670QM processor @ 2.2GHz, and an Nvidia Geoforce GT55M graphics card (I have just updated the driver for this). The graphics card was unable to handle the raw 1,920×1,080 HD footage at all so I have been down-scaling it all to 1,280×720.

Whilst the project is a sci-fi production, it’s not especially heavy on effects; it’s mostly a mix of basic editing, some motion tracking, a few lighting effects, masks, etc. and a couple of more sophisticated effects using some of the default CGI elements. I’ve also created a title and credit sequence with text captions and it’s been especially struggling with playing back these. 

I've recently cleaned up the hard drive (not that it was in any way clogged up) and I have 150GB of free space.

I'm not so worried about slow processing per se, just that I want to be able to play back what I'm editing smoothly.

I have found this plug-in device which appears to allow smooth HD playback via an external monitor but I’m assuming my inadequate internal graphics card would still hinder playback?

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/startech-usb-30-to-hdmi-external-video-card-multi-monitor-adapter-with-1-usb-pass-through-port-1920x?utm_source=google+shopping&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CjkKEQjw8YSdBRChhPXJvPvMztABEiQAkn893nxqQmliZe2DT_SFoPspbLJRWW641tLpYvmIkvyvRujw_wcB

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Comments

  • The biggest cause of playback issues is footage format. What format is your footage in, and what codec does it use? Simply making sure that you are using a good editing codec like DNxHD will alleviate a lot of playback issues.

  • Hi Axel.

    You wont remember but we discussed this about 2 years ago and I'd forgotten about codecs!

    The only codec which I can find is the one on the export settings in Hitfilm which shows it as H.264, and the video files I'm working with are in MP4 format.

    It's been a while since I've converted any files but I think these are the settings for all the video files used in the project so far.

  • I'm experiencing the same thing. Even with using proxy.

    http://hitfilm.com/forum/discussion/6735/faster-preview-prerender-in-editor#latest

    I converted the image sequence to jpg as a last resort and it has improved but still not realtime. Putting the Editor to quarter quality and 25% screen size also improves it but its no where near as smooth when you convert it to a Composite shot and use its ram preview. The ram preview in the Composite shot is really superior to the Editor proxies.

  • About the video format, you'd better re-save it to HTF accepted one such as WMV.

  • SimonKJonesSimonKJones Moderator

    As you pointed out in your first post, the main problem here is your computer's spec, and there's unfortunately no getting around that.

    You can lower the Viewer quality, which might help a bit, and make sure you're using a video format which decodes fast, but the GPU is going to remain a bottleneck.

    HitFilm 3 Pro has the proxy system which helps with real-time playback, especially of complex VFX shots, but you wouldn't want to proxy all your shots without getting more storage space. 

  • Thanks for the comments.

    Unfortunately I’m too far down the line to re-format the video files; I would have to start again from scratch which is not something I can even contemplate. Having said that, there are two ‘episodes’ to this project so perhaps I can use a more workable codec and video format for ‘part two’.

    With regards to the plug-in HD thing referred to above, would that help me in the interim in terms of playing back the timeline via an external monitor?

  • Triem23Triem23 Moderator
    edited May 2015

    Didn't Antony say he's on Express? If so, proxies aren't an option for him. 

    @chibi, what storage drive are your proxies going to? One thing about proxies--we've been told proxies are lossless, but I have never met a lossless file that could compress more than 2:1 to 3:1. Uncompressed 1280*720, 8-bit @ 24fps (i.e. Lowest resolution/bit depth/framerate you would use) is over 500Mbps/second, where 1920*1080, 16-bit @ 30fps is about 2100Mbps/second. Assuming your 1080 project is 16-bit and a 3:1 compression (unless @SimonKJones can get better data from a coder), that's a sustained data rate of close to 700Mbps, which might make your drive unhappy. 

  • Triem23
    typical 2tb 7200rpm hdd.  Can't really be the hdd. Vegas plays realtime on the same system.

    I wish they implement a ram previewer like what we have in the Comp shots. Its a lot better than the proxies in the Editor.

  • Hi. I have no idea what a proxy is...

    All I know is that my playback is also very jittery and slow. The preview screen works fine, and everything is good until I edit the clips on a composite screen. For example, blurry my clip for any amount of time ruins the playback.

    Can you walk me through how to fix this as a beginner and if my playback is slow, will it be slow even after I export the video?

  • @LadyAern Generally it is best to create a thread for your issue than resurrect old threads. Old threads, even if related, will not have current information and may not be directly applicable to current versions of Hitfilm.

    Please consult the following information.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqhl0mRuTng&list=PLgfiM46Y0Ue0sk4ACtkEy9TPWO6JbgD79&index=8

    https://hitfilm.com/forum/discussion/42349/transcoding-for-better-performance-and-easier-editing

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