Best way to import 1080p 60fps

Hi, I'm trying to edit some 1080p 60fps footage and keep the quality as good as possible. Now eventually after alot of googling i ended up converting the footage to DNxHD using eyeframe but after exporting the project from hitfilm I noticed it was blurry.

So I then tried messing with bitrate settings and anti ailiasing in hitfilm thinking it was one of those. Now turns out it was the DNxHD footage (99% sure) so wanting more options I've tried to use MPEGStreamclip. This has now let me to the problem of DNxHD apparently not supporting 1080p/60fps (only 1080i/59.94fps). So now I feel like Im just going in circles does anyone have some advice on the best way I can accomplish this? 


In short I need to:
1. Take footage saved as an MP4 at a variable refresh rate
2. Convert it into an easy to edit file (hence the DNxHD) and have a Constant Refresh rate
3. Edit this all and export it with the settings that retain the best quality

Any helps appreciated, thanks

Comments

  • edited May 21

    DNxHD does support 1080p60 as well as 1080p59.94. It does not support 60.0p in 720 mode and it does not support 30.0 in any mode.

    If your footage *is* the problem maybe you converted to an interlace variant of DNxHD. Or something else. All guessing.

    Why don't you give us a MediaInfo text report from one of your transcode files. You can copy+paste the text report directly from MediaInfo into a post here.

    You can watch the DNxHD transcode in a video player or in the Hitfilm viewer and if it is not blurry there, the transcode is not the problem.

    Also, you can transcode your 60.0 media to DNxHD 59.94 without a quality problem. In that situation you would make your project 59.94 to match.

    Lastly, you can convert to DNxHR at any frame rate and frame size.

  • Hi Norman, thanks in streamclip I can't see any option that lets me get 1080p/720p in 60fps the highest I can see is 1080i/59.94 DNxHD 220 10-bit im probably missing something though and heres the MediaInfo for oen of the files 

    General
    Complete name : E:\Conversions\ep2 pt1.mov
    Format : MPEG-4
    Commercial name : DNxHD 90
    Format profile : QuickTime
    Codec ID : qt 0000.00 (qt )
    File size : 6.80 GiB
    Duration : 10 min 35 s
    Overall bit rate : 92.0 Mb/s
    Encoded date : UTC 2017-05-19 21:01:40
    Tagged date : UTC 2017-05-19 21:01:40
    Writing application : FFmbc 0.7

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : VC-3
    Commercial name : DNxHD 90
    Format version : Version 1
    Format profile : HD@LB
    Codec ID : AVdn
    Codec ID/Info : Avid DNxHD
    Duration : 10 min 35 s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 90.4 Mb/s
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.727
    Stream size : 6.69 GiB (98%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2017-05-19 21:01:40
    Tagged date : UTC 2017-05-19 21:01:40

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : PCM
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Format settings, Sign : Signed
    Codec ID : twos
    Duration : 10 min 35 s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Stream size : 116 MiB (2%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2017-05-19 21:01:40
    Tagged date : UTC 2017-05-19 21:01:40

    Other
    ID : 3
    Type : Time code
    Format : QuickTime TC
    Duration : 10 min 35 s
    Time code of first frame : 20:43:02:21
    Time code, striped : Yes
    Title : 20170519
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2017-05-19 21:01:40
    Tagged date : UTC 2017-05-19 21:01:40

     

  • Your DNxHD file *is* 60p. So if you did not see it in the list, or select it then I don't know how you resulted in that.

    Format profile : HD@LB
    Codec ID : AVdn
    Codec ID/Info : Avid DNxHD
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 90.4 Mb/s
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 60.000 FPS
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive

     You did choose the DNxHD Proxy (low bandwidth) quality option of DNxHD. You don't want to do that. Stick with the Standard quality option.

    I don't know how MPEGstreamclip lists DNxHD but Standard quality at 1080p60 is 290 Mbs. If they list bitrates the lowest one will be the proxy quality setting and the next one up is probably the standard setting.

    I just looked at the Quicktime interface to access Avid codecs via Vegas. That Quicktime interface seems all messaged up. It may be similar in streamclip. No idea. I did not see even 1080p59.94 listed there let alone 1080p60.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Avid_DNxHD_resolutions

    As I said, DNxHR should not have any problem with frame size or frame rate combinations. Consider that if you have issues getting a proper 1080p60 DNxHD file. Convert V4 could be an alternate transcode app option.

  • Aladdin4dAladdin4d Moderator

    @NormanPCN I'm pretty sure @shefski55555 is right and there aren't any 1080p 60 fps DNxHD options available via QuickTime. FFMpeg or Convert V4/Dali's Mustache are probably the best option for transcoding

  • edited May 21

    Hmm ok thanks the file info i sent you was actually from eyeframe, i think I'm gonna end up using the 1080i/59.94 i see in streamclip because whenever i look at the file it still says 60fps and streamclip lets me choose the quality properly but thanks for your help and thanks @aladdin4d I'll look into those if i run into anymore issues

  • edited May 21

    I tested Convert V4 and no issue generating 1080p60. 

    For giggles, I tried sneaking a 720p60 through but as expected, no dice. In Convert V4 it came out at 1080p60.

    edit: With Convert, now Dali, being free. I call that the goto transcoder for DNxHD/HR and Prores.

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